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Old 06-09-2011, 06:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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12,000 miles a year average 25mpg = $48,000.00 @ 4.00 per gallon for 25 years
What in the WORLD makes you think that gas will remain around $4/gal for 25 years?
Agree; also cost for solar per KW will go down! It is already at least 25% lower than what I paid 3 years ago.
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The tax break is a 30% federal tax credit on the cost of the of the solar system that you can use for two years. State rebate programs differ from state to state.


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I did not think the price of gas would remain at 4.00 a gallon for twenty five years. I was giving the formula for Solar panels needed.
If you figure in the increase in energy cost (gas - electricity) over the next twenty five years, the savings are huge.
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I did not think the price of gas would remain at 4.00 a gallon for twenty five years. I was giving the formula for Solar panels needed.
I didn't mean to offend, but I have heard too many powerful people make a case against electric vehicles using unrealistic assumptions (and have even read their posts on EV forums).

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If you figure in the increase in energy cost (gas - electricity) over the next twenty five years, the savings are huge.
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This is an interesting thread to talk about the EV mpg. Recently, automaker Ford Motor Co. is in dangerous position as public perception that Fordís fuel economy efforts are lacking, Public opinion poll: Ford fuel economy is severely lacking. Ford has a problem with its public image, says Green Car Reports. It seems the public thinks Ford's fuel economy efforts are lacking. The automaker's own customer poll found that 68 percent of U.S. consumers see Fords as gasoline guzzlers. Are you in favor of this poll result?
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Recently, automaker Ford Motor Co. is in dangerous position as public perception that Fordís fuel economy efforts are lacking
Really? "Dangerous position"? I think that is taking it a bit far--especially when the referenced articles also point out that Ford's market share is increasing? So people think they make gas guzzlers; they are buying anyway! Then they find out that the cars are a bit more fuel-efficient than they thought....



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I charge at night when rates are really low. So filling the battery (5kWh), I go about 20 miles for about 20 cents to the electric company. So if your car gets 20 miles/ gal., it's like paying 20 cents for a gallon of gas! If you currently get 30 mpg, driving electric is like paying 30 cents for a gal.

Of course, charging in the afternoon will cost considerably more, but still, way less than gasoline (not to mention all the other benefits of electric driving).
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It is sure nice to get some verification of the miles/kWh that you are experiencing. I would like to know how stable the relationship of 100 miles per 28 kWh turns out to be in the various months of the year for your vehicle. Thanks.

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